Documentary about GM killing of the electric car. It has been here since ‘96 but they killed it off. If you believe in conspiracy theories: here’s one for ya.
That might be trew about electric cars not performing well in cold weather, but their are a lot of places in the us and the world that don’t have cold weather.
The EV1 was a test, and it failed it. Terrible performance compared to regular or hybrid engine, long recharge time and the necessity of having a docking station to recharge it. Combined to the fact that they were much more expensive to make and maintain when gas price were not that high.
Its only the gas price quadrupling in the last few years that made hybrid and electric car more viable.
About ten years ago, right, some bloke tried ter register an electric car. The states motor vehicle bureau refused ter register it because it could not pass a required emissions test, right, because there were no emissions ter test.
There’s no conspiracy, electric cars can’t compete with gas period. Why did they disappear? I’m sure it had nothing to do with the 20-30 mile range or charging it for 16 hours. Highways? Drive faster and your range goes down exponentially. What fantasy world you guys live in?
I don’t see it replacing fossil fuel in the united states any time soon. Imagine how many billions it would take to place charge stations 100 miles apart across the entire country. Even now it’s only viable within cities.
@mindysch Don’t know where you live buddy, but this winter was extreme here in Europe and it proved my point in practice: many hybrid cars got stranded here with dead batteries or batteries not charging anymore. Heck, many hybrids didn’t even start up. That’s no mis-information: it’s a fact buddy…
@f0xmuld3r - not so! This is more mis-information…do you really think that EVs battery systems aren’t tested for extremes. As far as getting stranded ( natural selection maybe ? ) If you can’t remember to fill up your gas tank - you will be stranded too. ( And who has spare fuel lying around at home…where as with an EV I can just plug it in and “fill it up”. ) Nissan leaf 100 miles for $3 - charging dock in your garage - just like the EV1
oh, i run a lawnmower with a pantone system : I Just use 25 % of gazolin, since 3 years, every years, to cut down my grass and it run perfect. The other ” fuel” is just WATER..
A lot of alternative systems have been killed, because they give economical problems : HOW to taxe water or electricity the same that Oil or gazolin is taxed ?
Btw, look also at the stiling engine, or Tesla way to produce free energy motors.
What have change is that we now have the infos with internet. That’s all.
Nissan Leaf is coming soon! Eat that Oil companies!!! And for all you shareholders in oil stocks - FUCK YOU, we, the people want electric cars and will lead the revolution!
Remember, oil companies, like any Corporation, have a duty to make as much profit for their shareholders (the Elite and wealthy) as possible. If you want to blame somebody, blame every asshole who wants a return on investment in conjunction to destroying the environment and keeping people slaves to oil. The Elite, the rich, who don’t give a shit about the future. They only care about their profit today. They don’t give a shit about society.
Well the car could also generate its own electricity through a built in dynamo, isn’t it? I mean when the car is travelling, it could be producing its own electric energy by converting the mechanical rotation of wheels to electricity! But I doubt that would create enough electricity!
The story is quite believable. Oil companies are rich and therefore have a lot of influence. I was always suspected that conspiracy because technologically speaking, Electric car shouldn’t be so complicated to make!
Stupid fucking oil companies, we’re gonna need plenty of electric cars before long… They say oil is gonna run out around 2050… We’re gonna need alternative cars…
May 11th, 2010 at 1:50 pm
@TMP3z
Unfortunately alternate fuels is the only way we’re gonna have a decent future
May 11th, 2010 at 1:50 pm
GM and Standard Oil bought up and killed the electric street cars in the early 1900’s. They are criminal organizations.
May 11th, 2010 at 1:50 pm
Where are is the electric car when we need it NOW!!!!!! Let me guess……GONE FOREVER!!!!!!!!!!
May 11th, 2010 at 1:50 pm
That might be trew about electric cars not performing well in cold weather, but their are a lot of places in the us and the world that don’t have cold weather.
May 11th, 2010 at 1:50 pm
The EV1 was a test, and it failed it. Terrible performance compared to regular or hybrid engine, long recharge time and the necessity of having a docking station to recharge it. Combined to the fact that they were much more expensive to make and maintain when gas price were not that high.
Its only the gas price quadrupling in the last few years that made hybrid and electric car more viable.
May 11th, 2010 at 1:50 pm
About ten years ago, right, some bloke tried ter register an electric car. The states motor vehicle bureau refused ter register it because it could not pass a required emissions test, right, because there were no emissions ter test.
May 11th, 2010 at 1:50 pm
hopefully GM will disapear and become a weak memory in history for their actions. nissan and toyota deserve to prosper…
May 11th, 2010 at 1:50 pm
@ FuckViacom4thJuly: LOVE YOU for that post!! 20 thumbs up!
May 11th, 2010 at 1:50 pm
There’s no conspiracy, electric cars can’t compete with gas period. Why did they disappear? I’m sure it had nothing to do with the 20-30 mile range or charging it for 16 hours. Highways? Drive faster and your range goes down exponentially. What fantasy world you guys live in?
I don’t see it replacing fossil fuel in the united states any time soon. Imagine how many billions it would take to place charge stations 100 miles apart across the entire country. Even now it’s only viable within cities.
May 11th, 2010 at 1:50 pm
@mindysch Don’t know where you live buddy, but this winter was extreme here in Europe and it proved my point in practice: many hybrid cars got stranded here with dead batteries or batteries not charging anymore. Heck, many hybrids didn’t even start up. That’s no mis-information: it’s a fact buddy…
May 11th, 2010 at 1:50 pm
@f0xmuld3r - not so! This is more mis-information…do you really think that EVs battery systems aren’t tested for extremes. As far as getting stranded ( natural selection maybe ? ) If you can’t remember to fill up your gas tank - you will be stranded too. ( And who has spare fuel lying around at home…where as with an EV I can just plug it in and “fill it up”. ) Nissan leaf 100 miles for $3 - charging dock in your garage - just like the EV1
May 11th, 2010 at 1:50 pm
oh, i run a lawnmower with a pantone system : I Just use 25 % of gazolin, since 3 years, every years, to cut down my grass and it run perfect. The other ” fuel” is just WATER..
A lot of alternative systems have been killed, because they give economical problems : HOW to taxe water or electricity the same that Oil or gazolin is taxed ?
Btw, look also at the stiling engine, or Tesla way to produce free energy motors.
What have change is that we now have the infos with internet. That’s all.
May 11th, 2010 at 1:50 pm
Bio-diesel.
May 11th, 2010 at 1:50 pm
Nissan Leaf is coming soon! Eat that Oil companies!!! And for all you shareholders in oil stocks - FUCK YOU, we, the people want electric cars and will lead the revolution!
May 11th, 2010 at 1:50 pm
Remember, oil companies, like any Corporation, have a duty to make as much profit for their shareholders (the Elite and wealthy) as possible. If you want to blame somebody, blame every asshole who wants a return on investment in conjunction to destroying the environment and keeping people slaves to oil. The Elite, the rich, who don’t give a shit about the future. They only care about their profit today. They don’t give a shit about society.
May 11th, 2010 at 1:50 pm
see this movie that came out in the 80’s directed by John Carpenter called “They Live”. It’s GREAT!!!
May 11th, 2010 at 1:50 pm
fcuk them
don’t eat what they give, don’t buy what they sell
and learn others to do the same
May 11th, 2010 at 1:50 pm
The EV1 was available since 1996. Imagine all the advancement that could have been accomplished since then.
May 11th, 2010 at 1:50 pm
What George Carlin said is 100% true.
They own us, they tell us what to buy, what to eat, what to drive, how to live… they control our lives!
May 11th, 2010 at 1:50 pm
not every power plant runs on coal.
May 11th, 2010 at 1:50 pm
Well the car could also generate its own electricity through a built in dynamo, isn’t it? I mean when the car is travelling, it could be producing its own electric energy by converting the mechanical rotation of wheels to electricity! But I doubt that would create enough electricity!
May 11th, 2010 at 1:50 pm
The story is quite believable. Oil companies are rich and therefore have a lot of influence. I was always suspected that conspiracy because technologically speaking, Electric car shouldn’t be so complicated to make!
May 11th, 2010 at 1:50 pm
Stupid fucking oil companies, we’re gonna need plenty of electric cars before long… They say oil is gonna run out around 2050… We’re gonna need alternative cars…
May 11th, 2010 at 1:50 pm
coal and oil aren’t the only things that will produce electricity. there’s Wind, solar, hydro, and several others
May 11th, 2010 at 1:50 pm
Thanks for the tip.